He lived with bears. Grisly crime scene pictures of bloodied murder victims from early 1900s New York City are seen in color for the first time. The photo is from some other random event, but the story of the guy getting killed by the bear is real. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] cortana 5 [Edited on 01.15.2009 4:56 PM PST], i no there r i was quoting dirty harry and plz tell me u were joking cuz if u havent heard tyhat quote my god, [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nikerulez222 I think they ended up killing 3 bears - the first bear was protecting the corpses, and the others according to the park rangers were "clearly stalking them" and after unsuccesfully trying to scare . I too have wondered if Herzog's listening to the tape actually made Jewel more interested in hearing it, or if she just destroyed it right away.The scene you described is so memorable, definitely one of my favorites in the film. Great write-up AlexI waffle between this and Lessons Of Darkness as my fave of his documentaries.However, I'd like to propose the possibility of a different twist to the scene - that there is in fact no audio of Treadwell's death. If a bear mauled a person, they wouldn't head for the crotch, they draw themselves to their full height to attack. Edit If you want disturbing video [well, a picture with an audio], [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMcaNuO8gs&feature=related]click this video. Nic White For Mailonline Apparently, she's also known as "Verna White". The state prosecutor said the three men had . He should have stayed home and watched wild kingdom.Jim would have showed him how to rassle grizzly bars, I wanna hear it all. OK, illegal to fly in private planes without guns! [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] jew man man I personally wouldn't want to hear the tape, but I get where you're coming from. O.J. All Rights Reserved. The case remained unsolved for decades, until the Sarasota County Sheriff's Office took another crack at the Walker family murders case. But then again, this could be any drunkard playing with a bear with some friends. He All because we're watching Herzog listening to a man and woman being mauled to death yet we don't hear the tape. curiosity. He's . Good observation. I'm with you, i wouldnt mind seeing the pictures but you cant hear the video becasue it's gone. I was scared, but I was also morbidly curious, and then I was sick with myself for almost wanting to hear it. Naturally, there wouldn't be a echo if they were outside in a brushy area, where their camp was. I have since calmed down, but for Herzog to film himself listening to Treadwell die is at best self-indulgent and at worst exploitative to an almost pornographic extreme. I do wonder if that sequence made the woman even more curious to listen to it, though, and I sometimes think she might have because of it.The scene that I will always remember, for a different reason, is early in the film where a grizzly is standing up rubbing its head on a branch. In Grizzly Man, director Werner Herzog uses cuts and the order of sequences to borrow from the reality of found footage and develop his argument that Timothy Treadwell decided to live with the bears to create a new identity, but that he knowingly made a poor decision because nature is brutal. In Grizzly Man the star of the documentary Timothy Treadwell tries to embrace the lifestyle of a grizzly bear and erase the divide between human and wilderness. Bear season is over unfortunately, To bad I really wanted to tag me a Bear this year, YUM Bear sausage. Thanks, Flood. He'll always have top honors in my book, for that reason and many others. Bob, first off, thanks so much for stopping by and leaving such an insightful comment. >_>. They should know how lucky he was not to get eaten sooner. Photo: CBS Television/Stringer/Getty Images. Also the leg looks it was propped up just for the photo and from the look of the carnage in the photo it looks like a VERY close range shotgun blast to the crotch, imo. . [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Duality7654 [i]imbeciles[/i] Herzog will always be one of my favorite directors, but that'd be low, in my opinion.Either way, damn interesting thought. Soliciting/Plagiarism/Phishing/Impersonation, This site uses cookies to provide you with the best possible user experience. Herzog listen to Timothy Treadwell die. This is an excerpt from a Reader's Digest article: Timothy Treadwell was the sort of guy most Alaskans loved to hate. "I meant chase as in the nagging thought or idea in his mind that he has to film in order to subside. [/quote] Good observation. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ClickB And I dont use the word positive lightly here. For him, eating a shoe, dragging a boat across a mountain, threatening to kill a lead actor, climbing an about-to-erupt volcano, filming on every continent its all for the thrill of the chase. The 39-year-old, who has not yet been identified, was found dead in an area north of Durango on . Seriously, If you are too young, don't watch it. [/quote] Respect a Wild Animal give it its space. AND, I get to take my arsenal into the park with my concealed permitcool. By clicking 'Accept', you agree to the policies documented at, This site uses cookies to provide you with the best possible user experience. I have no idea.) I don't have time to humor the notion that it should have been revealed or anything. A 46-year-old man covered in blood stains was also at the scene and was arrested. <p>Timothy Treadwell was a rehabilitated drug addict, who used to live among Grizzly's as if they were his pets, but unfortunately, it was not the case. However I did feel like giving some of my input as to the reason for the sudden attack from the grizzlies. Sits at the heart of a 177-mile-long archipelago off the state's southwestern coast. [quote] That's no shotgun blast. Secular Media Ltd 2022. The Grizzly bears in GRIZZLY MAN were hardly exciting. If it weren't for me, all of ya'll would not be in that traffic jam behind me. He brings his hand to his face and rubs the bridge of his nose. I hadn't heard that. perhaps the bears revolted because they were in the middle of a Orgy? I remember watching that scene and thinking that there is no way that I would ever have listened to the audio. unique world of Werner Herzog, and my cinematic life hasnt been the same since. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Actually, he's been the subject of a few documentaries , the most famous being Werner . The photo is from some other random event, but the story of the guy getting killed by the bear is real. Timothy Treadwells life ranks among the most unsettling. I would have shot the bear, while at the same time wondering why I have a boyfriend? I don't think I want to hear it either. The picture is from a completely unrelated site, though is real. Edit I hear what you're saying, as this scene has been accused of being horribly manipulative, but it still hits for me. But it DOES create a vacuum in the film for meWHY SHOW HIM LISTENING TO IT? The FBI stated that the area had been reopened to the public. Comments in video say it's fake, but IDK. . Throughout the documentary, Herzog effectively . Extremely disturbing audio. The black and white crime scene photographs were painstakingly colorized by Frdric Duriez, 52, from Angres, France, to show what detectives would really have seen. Katmai Park Rangers killed the male grizzly bear responsible for Timothy Treadwell and his girlfriend’s death. Actually they will eat just about anything. You better get to the Gun Store if you wanna fly today! " The 9/11 one was sad and disturbing. Simpson murdered Nicole Brown Simpson and tarnished his golden boy, "race-transcending" image because of his own demons. Timothy Treadwell (born Timothy William Dexter; April 29, 1957 - October 5, 2003) was an American bear enthusiast, environmentalist, documentary filmmaker, and founder of the bear-protection organization Grizzly People.He lived among coastal brown bears (or grizzlies, Ursus arctos) in Katmai National Park, Alaska, for 13 summers.. On October 5, 2003, Treadwell and his girlfriend Amie . . [Edited on 01.15.2009 5:06 PM PST], [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zealot of Law The remains of Tim Treadwell, 46, a self proclaimed eco-warrior and photographer, along with girlfriend Amie Huguenard, 37, a physicians assistant, both of Malibu California were found Monday October 6, 2003 in Katmai usgs topo map of kaflia bay, alaska, area of maulingNational Park and Preserve on the Alaska Peninsula after the air taxi pilot Willy Fulton, who had flown in to pick the couple . Treadwell, also known as Grizzly Man, died at 46 alongside his girlfriend Amie Huguenard on Oct. 5, 2003. The Daily Grind Video. And then Herzog says one sentence that epitomizes who he recording of her friend dying, but she lets Herzog listen to it, perhaps as a ps can someone post the link to the aierial photos which show the scene? [/quote]What is the video? [Edited on 01.15.2009 8:28 PM PST]. Bear with me here (sorry, I didn't actually mean that as a pun). Did anybody ever get to hear the tape where the bear eats him and his girlfriend? I have been handling guns since I was 7. It's so much bigger than horrifying crime scene images. I'm googling the fuck out of it with no luck. The below audio is the most popular although it's authenticity is hotly debated. Click here to check it out. [Edited on 01.15.2009 4:26 PM PST]. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ClickB Watch out bars! I agree, it's totally within Herzog's bag of tricks to do just that. [url=http://www.photoshoppix.com/modules/coppermine/albums/userpics/10008/normal_rocky_and_bear.jpg]The one person who can truly survive a bear attack[/url]. 29,271 Views. Here is what is though to be the photo. Herzog is known for trying to find the "ecstatic truth" in a scene - the real core truth of an idea or situation without worrying about the specifics or details. Solid stuff bro. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Zealot of Law I think Mel Gibson, in APOCALYPTO, took the approach that was closer to a chase, not least because much of the film is literally one long chase. I say go with the spear idea. Embed: Use old embed code. If you ever go to a bear populated area, take something to deter bears such as bear repelant mace. well men grabb the rifles were goin to kill these ungodly beasts[/quote] Palovak has never listened to the and bring it to life by any means necessary. He won't SHOW any footage, though he WILL show *himself listening to it. Your role as a moderator enables you immediately ban this user from messaging (bypassing the report queue) if you select a punishment. Watch the last 30 seconds if your lazy. Woah, wtf. You are not allowed to view this content. On Sunday, August 10, 1969, grocery store chain owners Leno and Rosemary LaBianca were settled in for the night after a Saturday lake trip to drop off a boat. slowly pans in on Palovak, as her face becomes more contorted with fear and a rocket launcher perhaps? You've probably seen worse in movies. I would like that kind of attitude. A life both tragic and silly. Cancel By The below audio is the most popular although its authenticity is hotly debated. One thing is fact though, don't mess with bears. I'm going to have a hell of a time sleeping tonight. I didn't expect that to be so raw? Their remains were found . To this day people still wonder what provoked the bears. Treadwell was last heard from at noon Sunday, when he used a satellite phone to call a friend in Malibu. By continuing to use this site, you agree to the policies documented at, Our policies have recently changed. Also, a documentary here: Surviving Evil: Wolves at the Door It became a hit and was called Grizzl But keep in mind this is real stuff. For him, eating a The general consensus is this is a fake and the real audio of the Grizzly attack that killed Treadwell and Huguenard is still unpublished. People claim that this tape is false because the bear sounds sound slightly fake and a slight echo can be heard when Timothy screams. North to Alaska! Top 10 Scenes of People Receiving the Best News of Top 10 Scenes of People Receiving the Worst News o Top 10 Controversial Films that Arent Really that Top 13 Things I Love About Mulholland Dr. (that no Top 10 Dramatic Performances by Comedians, Anthology Breakdown: To Each His Own Cinema, Top 10 Careers Launched by Oscar Winning Short Films, Breaking Down the Spike Lee Double Dolly Shot. Whether that involves dressing an And if you must a bring a Gun bring a High Cal. What about the black hole in the center of the galaxy? His body language is strange, and you get a general sense of uncanny unease *in addition* to the emotional heft of the rather grim, sad keepsake (still working! The contents of this page are quite gruesome. Early reviews of "Grizzly Man," a Treadwell film set to air haloscout out, [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GuyamanJaro And I think the video and photo were fake. Werner Herzog isnt a man who is easily fazed. By clicking 'Accept', you agree to the policies documented at, This site uses cookies to provide you with the best possible user experience. Herzog portrays this relationship as one full of compassion, mutuality, and love. Leaked photos and videos have subsequently emerged showing a bloodied man apparently admitting to stabbing the . That was intense [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Iggyhopper Thanks so much for stopping by and commenting, Chip! Post, Download on the AppStore JonBenet Ramsey's Christmas Murder Scene. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] neoshogun What an oddly unique man. Also, I'll say it one more time since I'm already here: No, it doesn't have any pop ups. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nikerulez222 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ClickB The audio is apparently fake according to every other person in this thread and I really have no basis for a counterargument since I was around 10 at the time of his death, [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WALMART C0P Just by the look of his face and his response is enough for me to realize that I'm glad that tape is destroyed. But take, is as a man and as a filmmaker: One day during a History of the Documentary course I took in He said just as he got to the plane he saw a big grizzly coming down the path after him, where he had just been. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] CP0 Fraser Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. [/quote] I have yet to see a bad one. Well, do ya, bear? More photos here: Sue White after the attack. I know what you're thinking. Woah, wtf. A 'chase' is about going after exciting topics. A 1 minute 51 second clip from the real Grizzly Man death video was rumored to be leaked and began showing up on YouTube and other media outlets. 5 amid Smith talks. films out of sport, rather than lasting creative impact. As in, Herzog seems to chase whatever idea he gets in his head, Think about criminals whom worked covertly, and do human trafficking. It drops down to all fours and starts walking towards Treadwell. Thanks, learned some new facts for my TTreadwell library o facts there. Get it on Google play. Looks like Colbert was right. The photos were introduced as evidence Monday in the trial where Arias is accused of murdering ex-boyfriend Travis Alexander by stabbing him 27 times and then shooting him in the head. If you want disturbing video [well, a picture with an audio], [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMcaNuO8gs&feature=related]click this video. Welcome to Grizzly True Crime with Gisela K.! [/quote]What is the video? "Did he fire six shots or only five?" unless you have a double barrel, i lived in alaska and have had encounters and dam near shized my pants and if that oic was edited it was because it was to make it less gory. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/25gw7r/hello_reddit_i_am_jewel_palovak_confidante_and/chhc1y1/ (Link to comment). Try investing in a pump-action shotgun instead. That would be my plan - each person carries two spears and a really sharp hatchet. I'm not saying he should have included any of it, because of course I'm not. Watch the last 30 seconds if your lazy. i no there r i was quoting dirty harry and plz tell me u were joking cuz if u havent heard tyhat quote my god[/quote] Anybody ever wonder what Timothy Treadwell looked like after the bear got him? Pistol or a shotgun with slugs just don't be idiots with them. Watch the last 30 seconds if your lazy. https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/25gw7r/hello_reddit_i_am_jewel_palovak_confidante_and/ (Link to AMA) During the AMA, she said this regarding the release of the tape: "contractually it was off of the table." But you have to read every one of these comments (I guess), and so I won't. A woman walking her two dogs in Colorado has been killed in a bear attack, park officials say. "Where's your gun? The only reason this guy died is because he forgot that bears are still wild animals and not his family or friends, much like Sigfried and Roy figured out with a Tiger. Does anyone know what provoked the bear? It's a man speaking then you here him scream right as the towers come crashing down. {{ )That's what *I* think, anyway. But then again, this could be any drunkard playing with a bear with some friends. However, the camera was placed inside the tent, which most likely had some insulation which could have created some echo. professor verbally established the scene with context, and we all watched Werner Guns need respect also. college, my professor entered the room and said he wanted to show us something. Huguenard's anxiety at being there showed on a video that Treadwell shot; in one sequence, she sits in the brush with a female bear and cubs ten feet away. She has allowed others to listen to it though. `${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? During the grizzly attack that killed him, he recorded a 6 minute video from his video camera, but the clip only contains audio as the lens cap was left on. Watch the last 30 seconds if your lazy. If you want disturbing video [well, a picture with an audio], [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pMcaNuO8gs&feature=related]click this video. While I sincerely respect your articulate and thought-out response, I obviously disagree. Chris Knipp 24 August 2005. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nikerulez222 If you watched the documentary, you would remember the part where something along the lines of, "These tapes should be destroyed. See more of history's most infamous mob hits in the gallery above. You can strap a knife to a nice stick and have yourself a nasty spear. By clicking 'Accept', you agree to the updated policies documented at, Our policies have recently changed. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] a can of chez In other words, he doesn't always tell the whole truth in a scene and has even told lies in order to get to the "grander" truth.Though it may seem a bit farfetched that he would pretend to hear the deaths (especially in front of Treadwell's friend), I can't help but have that idea bounce around in mind as something that Herzog would do. *sacrasm* "He makes films out of sport, rather than lasting creative impact. Post, Download on the AppStore I love seeing (and hearing now) this kind of stuff. Who didn't respect wild life? Did Jewel release the tape against her contractual obligation, or is it a fake? Simpson was acquitted at trial, but he is still believed by many to be guilty. I love documentaries, and have watched several of Herzog's non-narrative films, but when I watched this scene I was outraged. Happy Eggplant Friday! I'm kinda scared to watch it. >_>[/quote] GOD this scene . The emotion . Where's the sound of the bear? You are not allowed to view this content. Not as a mean-spirited prank, but in order to get a final coda and emotional reaction to this man's death. What was once the site of a grizzly double homicide is now the home to a museum and B&B. why are his pants down? 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